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Frames

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:47 pm
by Mozza
Is there much difference between '81 1100EX and 1100 Katana frames? Could the Kat bodywork be made to fit?

Re: Frames

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:09 am
by Pedda
Most obvious difference is the pillion peg subbies. I would not expect any difficulties in making a Kat bodywork fit with welding the right lugs in the right places.

Re: Frames

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:13 am
by FBJ admin
I agree with Pedda. The front tank mounting holes are there. Need a fitting making. I think its just a case of welding on lugs. Kat frames are getting rare and expensive. If your doing a modified bike its the right way to go

Re: Frames

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:07 pm
by dixiethedog
Id agree with the last comment about certain frames becoming expensive and rare. This was typed by a person fitting z1 panels to a Gpz750 frame...cos he cant afford a z1 frame. :lol:
I used to have GS1000 panels on a GS750 as well as at a later date gsx et panels. The only tool i owned in those far back days was a hammer. :D
Go for it!

Re: Frames

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:13 pm
by arnout
currently building my own "fake" Katana using a GSX750EX frame.. and figuring out the right position of the lugs to fit the Katana bodywork has been quite time consuming and sometimes frustrating process.. :|
the problem is that you have very little reference to go on as all of the lugs are on different positions on EX/ET frames compared to the Kat ones.. also as there's no front fairing on an EX/ET you have to base the position of the faring frame and its lugs on the position you found for the tank..
in the end the only reference I used was the cross tube under the seat that corresponds with the rubber underneath the Kat seat.. that is, I assumed this tube would be in the same position on both types of frames..
so after getting the seat positioned I worked forward to place the tank and eventually the fairing..

another big difference on the frames EX/ET vs. Kat is the angle of the subframe.. on Katana's this swept up, on EX/ET's it is not so the horizontal frame tubes run staright on towards the rear..
so, to avoid the end of the subframe poking out below the future Kat tail piece I "pie-cut" the tubes on top and bent and welded them up again..
also the tail section of the frame holding the seat lock is different (locks also differ: 3 bolt vs. 4-bolt type) and needs to modifying to suit a Kat seat and tail..

upswept tubes..
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new tail section to reuse old seat lock (altered to cable operation)..
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I'm not sure but I suspect EZ/ESD frames bear a closer resemblance to the Kat frames regarding the positon of the bodywork lugs.. if indeed so, this would make it a much better candidate for recreating a Katana I think..

oh.. to make life a bit easier I made separate lugs for the side panels that will attach to the tubes using hose clamps.. this way I can fine tune the final position of the panels..

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Re: Frames

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:05 am
by Mozza
Thanks for the replies, lads!
I think this needs a 'good coat of looking at'! Will let you know what transpires.
Mo